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10.8.2004 3:03

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

Udelat mir ,je tezke,ale valku,nadmiru lehke.Proc jsme meli druhou svetovou valku,se muzou ptat Americane.

President Wilson's hand trembled as he read his message to Congress. By the time President Wilson finished reading his appeal to Congress, many of his listeners were in tears but not for the reason the grass roots population of the United States today will be in tears when they finish reading this manuscript. When President Wilson asked Congress to declare war against Germany, President Wilson was in effect and in fact conspiring to pay the debt he obligated himself to pay to the Zionists. Congress only declared war against Germany because President Wilson informed Congress that a German submarine had sunk the S.S. Sussex in the English Channel in violation of international law and that United States citizens aboard the S.S. Sussex had perished with the ship.After General Pershing's troops were fighting in Europe, the hoax was exposed. The alleged sinking of the S.S.Sussex was used as the "pretext" to justify a declaration of war against Germany by the United States. The S.S.Sussex had not been sunk and no United States citizens had lost their lives. The United States was now at war in Europe as Great Britain's ally. That is what Great Britain and the Talmudists ("Jews"[mrknutí jedním okem] of the world conspired to achieve in their crooked diplomatic underworld. The discovery of the hoax by the British Navy shocked many honorable Englishmen. A large segment of the British public were shocked to learn the S.S. Sussex had not been sunk. The S.S. Sussex was available for anyone to visit who might care to do so to see the S.S. Sussex for themselves with their own eyes. In that war the United States mobilized 4,734,991 men to serve in the armed forces, of whom 115,516 were killed and 202,002 were either injured or maimed for life. The Right Honorable Francis Neilson, a member of Parliament, wrote a book in England called Makers of War (pp. 149150). Mr.Neilson's book created such a sensation that Mr. Neilson was compelled to resign his seat in Parliament. Things became so intolerable for Mr. Neilson in Great Britain as a Result of the exposures in his book that he was compelled for his personal safety to flee from his home in Great Britain and to make his home in the United States. In Mr. Neilson's book Makers of War (pp. 149-150), he discloses many unsuspected and undisclosed reasons for the outbreak of World War I in Europe in August 1914. With reference to the alleged sinking of the S.S. Sussex in the English Channel, Mr. Neilson emphasizes: "/n America, Woodrow Wilson, desperate to find a pretext to enter the war, found it at last in the 'sinking' of the Sussex in mid-channel. Someone invented a yarn that American lives had been lost. With thus excuse he went to Congress for a declaration of war.

31927

10.8.2004 5:51

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Vladimír Stwora editor (zavináč) zvedavec (tečka) org 69.?.?.?

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Tohle jsem také nevěděl. Čím dál víc to vypadá, že všechny války, které kdy USA vedly, byly útočné a na základě vylhaných důvodů. Pletu se nebo ne?

31936

10.8.2004 8:23

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Jarka 160.?.?.?

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Re: Tohle jsem take nevedel...
Kdyz jste to nevedel vy, my v Cesku teprve ne...Mocipani tohoto sveta propojeni s terorem.A jsme zase u penez!!!!

31938

10.8.2004 9:30

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milo admsoft (zavináč) atlas (tečka) cz 80.?.?.?

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Samozřejmě ano, jako skoro vždycky. Proč by tomu teď mělo být jinak.

31940

10.8.2004 16:55

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Josef 12.?.?.?

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Pane Stwora ! Vite proc jste to nevedel? Protoze to tak nebylo.
V clanku nejsou zadne datumy, tak to vypada, ze prvni svetovou valku vedli Americane. Valka zacala 1914 a USA do valky vstoupily vyhlasenim valky az 2.dubna 1917 a v rijnu pristiho roku uz jsme byli Ceskoslovensko. V roce 1916 dokonce Woodrow Wilson nabidl sve sluzby jako vyjednavac usmirovac k zakonceni konfliktu . Anglie a Francie souhlasily se zastavenim boju, Nemci na vyzvu neodpovedeli a zahajili tvrdou ponorkovou valku. S.S. SUSSEX byla anglicka ferry a pri jejim potopeni zahynuli Americane, ale nebyl to duvod vstoupit do valky. Kdezto USS SUSSEX byla ve sluzbach US NAVY a prodana uz v r 1920 do civilni sluzby jako fishing vessel a to USS uz nemohla pouzivat. Proto asi ty problemy s jednim jmenem a dvema lodema. USA udelaly chybu, ze z Evropy tehdy hned odesly. Proto po druhe svetove radeji zustaly Spojne Staty v Evrope pritomne az dodnes. Pritomnost ale konci, protoze EU si buduje svoji armadu nezavislou na NATO.
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Take upozornujete na titulni strance, ze z Iraku byla vyhostena Al-Jezeera, ale ani Culik ani Vy nepisete proc! Do vysilani pro deti byly umistovany pokyny pro Al-Kaidu. Canada take odmitla udelit licenci k vysilani americke spolecnosti Fax-News a Al-Jezeera licenci vysilat v Canade dostala! Pritom Al-Jezeera je stvava proislamska stanice, kdezto Fax News je pouze politicky nekorektni, ktera vytaci americkou levici do nepricetnosti.Kanadska vlada dokonce pripravuje zakon , ktery povoluje islamskemu podniku vyhodit delnika z prace i za to, ze si na svacinu prinese housku se sunkou. Pojidani veproveho se poklada za provokaci! Podotikam, ze v podniku, ktery vlastni muslimove!

31951

11.8.2004 19:29

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Jedinecny 80.?.?.?

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Do vysilani pro deti byly umistovany pokyny pro Al-Kaidu.

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31995

10.8.2004 4:04

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

White House touts Bush and Jews

The White House published a 23-page booklet called “George W. Bush: A Friend of the American Jewish Community.”
Mailed Monday to community leaders, the booklet features photos of Bush meeting with Jewish leaders and visiting a Holocaust memorial and quotes from Jewish leaders praising his support for Israel, his fight against anti-Semitism and his fight against terrorism. Some of the quotes compare Bush favorably to President Clinton. The National Jewish Democratic Council described the booklet as an “outrage” in an election year.

Ira Forman, the NJDC’s executive director, chided the White House for including Bush’s rebuke last year of a fiercely anti-Semitic speech by Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohammed, noting that it came only after several days of silence, was made in private — and that Mahathir denied Bush ever delivered the rebuke.

Komu slouzi Bush zidum a nebo americkym obcanum ?
Talmud rika ,ze i nejlepsi sluhove pro zidovstvo z rad Goyimu musi byt utraceni.







31930

10.8.2004 8:29

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Lemi 147.?.?.?

Po vítězství v Iráku se na obzoru objevila možnost další války na území Bosny bohaté na přírodní zdroje. A znovu byla země vmanévrována do války pomocí podvodu.

Konkretně na tuto pasáž článku musím reagovat. Může mě autor článku objasnit, ve které válce bojovali američané v Bosně ?? Leště lépe, kvuli kteremu nerostnému bohatství ? Dále bych se chtěl zeptat, zda tedy zpochybňuje nebo uplně vylučuje existenci koncentračních (sběrných) táborů a praktikování genocidy na uzemí Bosny a Hercegoviny ?
Podvrh teto fotografise z Bosny je relativně známá causa, dle mého názoru způsobená pouze senzacechtivostí konkrétního novináře. Bohužel to se dneska stává a je to běžné, koneckonců fotograf je placen od kusu. Avšak zpochybňovat na základě jedné podvržené fotografie vše co se na území Bosny a Hercegoviny stalo, se mě zdá krajně přehnané.

31939

10.8.2004 10:55

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Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

Kdyz bylo pred druhou svetovou valkou,tak Churchil se ptal Rosevelta ,kdy napadnou Japonsko,ale ten zavrtel hlavou a rekl:My valku nevyvolame,my Japonce donutime ,aby nam valku vyhlasili,pouzijeme embarga na vsechny olejove zdroje ,bez oleje nemuze Japonsko existovat.
Presne to v jinem provedeni udelali v Poustni Bouri,Americka vyslankyne ujistila Saddam Hussejna ,ze se Amerika nebude plect do rozporu o oleji mezi Kuwaitem -kdysi uzemi Iraku- a Irakem ,tudiz dali Saddam Hussejnovi "zelenou" a ten na to zkocil a spolkl navnadu,potom mu zena do medii udelal propagandu s inkubatory na mimina a zabijeni nemluvnat,coz proslocelym tiskem,tak ,jak "Hunum"a ze to byla dcera vyslance Kuwaitu v USA to uz nikoho nezajimalo a po stazeni irackych vojsk se prislo na to ,ze zadne inkubatory nejsou v dommele nemocnici rozbity,ale to uz bylo prece pozde,lzi splnily svuj ukol a obeti na obou stranach take,prumysl se rozjel na plne obratky a miliardove prijmy jsou na ceste ,jak rekl jeden americky general:valka je predevsim velky obchod.
Pani vyslankyne se ztratila z obzoru take ,aby nahodou nemluvila a zapis ze senatu,ktery rovnez se vyslovil ,ze se do niceho nebude michat se ulozil do archivu,prece i Rosevelt sliboval americkemu narodu,ze noha americkeho vojaka nevkroci na evropskou pevninu,ale zazastenou vse priparvoval na valku,tak ,jak Churchil v akci Polska,kde i polsky marsal se vyjadril "ze chce valku s Nemeckem" ovsem toto se dnes nesmi rikat,historici jsou poplatni a ti co nejsou ,jsou na honebnim listku.

31942

10.8.2004 12:12

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Honzik 212.?.?.?

Co si mám myslet o člověku, co tvrdí, že Bush vyzbrojoval Irák v průběhu války s Íránem, ale nenapíše jakými zbraněmi a v jakém objemu, zejména v porovnání třeba se Sovětským svazem nebo Francií?

Paradoxní je toto tvrzení zejména proto, že Irácko-Íránská válka skončila v srpnu 1988, ale americkým prezidentem byl do roku 1989 Ronald Reagan a Bush nastoupil až v 89tém.

Že asi autor lže.

Co si mám myslet o autorovi, který tady tvrdí, že ví jak to bylo, když neví, že April Glaspie je žena a ne muž a tudíž byla velvyslankyně a ne velvyslanec?

Že asi lže.

A to jsem dočetl jen první odstavec. Dál to ani nemá cenu číst.

31946

10.8.2004 14:49

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Vladimír Stwora editor (zavináč) zvedavec (tečka) org 70.?.?.?

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Co si mám myslet o čtenáři, kterému splývá rozdíl mezi autorem a překladatelem?

Co si mám myslet o čtenáři, který útočí a zesměšňuje, ale nedokáže se ani pod své útoky podepsat skutečným jménem, a dokonce mění i přezdívky. (dříve to byl Stříšky /Max/, teď se podepisuje Honzík)?

Tu April Glaspie opravím. Opravdu jsem nevěděl, že je to žena. Ale ať to byl třeba hermafrodit, změnilo to něco na faktu, že Bush slíbil Saddamovi beztrestnost za obsazení Kuvajtu a pak ho věrolomně napadl?

31947

10.8.2004 14:54

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P.Peshmerga, Mgr.Paed 69.?.?.?

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Člověk, který uveřejňuje podobné zprávy, předpokládá, že znalosti průměrného čtenáře nejsou příliš hluboké a že se nenajde moc "šťouralů" Vašeho typu, kteří budou každou větu či odstavec jeho článku prozkoumávat.
V mnoha dalších případech je to vinou překladatele, který např. neví, že jméno April je čistě ženské a předpokládá, že do moslemské země by Američané nevysílali ženu jako svého zástupce.
Jen díky lidem Vašeho druhu, kteří nic nepřijímají za svaté a nedotknutelné a upozorňují na nesprávnosti, ať úmyslné či neúmyslné, si pozorný čtenář může udělat přesnější obrázek o tom, jak to vlastně bylo, "více či méně".

31948

10.8.2004 20:00

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albert 216.?.?.?

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>Co si mám myslet o člověku, co tvrdí, že Bush vyzbrojoval
>Irák v průběhu války s Íránem, ale nenapíše jakými zbraněmi
>a v jakém objemu, zejména v porovnání třeba se Sovětským
>svazem nebo Francií?

>
>Paradoxní je toto tvrzení zejména proto, že Irácko-Íránská
>válka skončila v srpnu 1988, ale americkým prezidentem byl
>do roku 1989 Ronald Reagan a Bush nastoupil až v 89tém.

>
>Že asi autor lže.
>
>Co si mám myslet o autorovi, který tady tvrdí, že ví jak to
>bylo, když neví, že April Glaspie je žena a ne muž a tudíž
>byla velvyslankyně a ne velvyslanec?

>
>Že asi lže.
>
>A to jsem dočetl jen první odstavec. Dál to ani nemá cenu
>číst.


Pro Honzika co mu to tak hezky premysli, a to premysleni mu pomaha odhalit lzi ..
I ta fotografie hodneho pana Americana Rumsfelda, ktery by z lasky pro Ameriku polozil i zivot (teda ne vlastni, a poc? Vzdyt levnych zivotu druhych je habadej, prehrsle, kam se jeden podiva), jak si podava ruku s tim zlym, dabelskym tyranem Saddamem (talmudisticti zide objevili, ze Saddam je prevteleny Amalek, ktery podle SZ se musi EXTERMINOVAT! Oy-vey! Oy-vey! Pred 3000 lety, oy-vey!), co ma az dodnes nekde schovane ZHN (a furt nechce prozradit kde, i kdyby mu hodni americane kteri miluji svobodu+demokracii poskytli rekreacni terapii v tom americkem Country Club na irackem uzemi, "Abu Ghraib"[mrknutí jedním okem], a vrazdil lidi na svem vlastnim uzemi (skoro jako Zioniste vrazdici Palestince) musi byt lez ...

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm

31953

10.8.2004 20:08

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dub 62.?.?.?

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no nesmíte se dívat jen na prezidenta, ale taky na osazenstvo cia[smích]
a jakými zbraněmi? mimo konvenčních značným množstvím chemických a biologických.
stačí chtít vědět a dozvíte se, v televizi vám to neřeknou...

31954

10.8.2004 16:31

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Blbobijec 212.?.?.?

" Tato firma připravila monumentální podvod..." A má "tato" firma nějaké jméno?

31950

15.8.2004 13:28

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Honzik 83.?.?.?

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Koukám, že jste to dočetl ještě dál než já. Schválně jsem se koukl na článek ještě jednou, abych se dozvěděl, jakou firmu tam autor zmiňuje.

Ten článek je teda perla. Bush prej "potřeboval přísun nafty z Iráku zastavit". Přitom celou Irácko-Íránskou válku americké námořnictvo chránilo tankery v perském zálivu, aby je válčící strany nepotápěly a ty mohly bezpečně vyvážet ropu. Zajímavá nelogičnost.

Firmou o které autor ve článku hovoří zřejmě myslí americkou PR firmu Hill and Knowlton. Tu si najala organizace Kuvajtských občanů usilujících o osvobození Kuvajtu od Irácké okupace. Ta medializovala tu kuvajtskou dívku, která tvrdila, že viděla vyhazovat nemluvňata z inkubátorů.

O osvobození Kuvajtu rozhodla Organizace spojených národu a Liga arabských států. Rozhodly by o osvobození Kuvajtu i bez divadla co sehrála ta patnáctiletá hysterka a jestli autor článku tvrdí něco jiného, tak je to jenom jeho další lež.

Ježiši, asi omylem jsem přečetl další odstavec. "Alic Fikret - foto, které pomohlo rozpoutat válku v Srbsku." Takovýhle popis má fotografie toho usmívajícího se vyhublého muže na fotografii.

Tady jde již asi o přínos překladatele, který ke svému ehm překladu ještě přidává svoje vlastní názory.

Jaká je však skutečnost? Mohly tyto záběry agentury ITN rozpoutat válku v Srbsku? Tyto záběry od ITN převzaly různé agentury a doprovodily je vlastními komentáři, které ITN sama neprezentovala. Po té co levicový časopis Living Marxism obvinil na svých stránkách ITN, že záběry zmanipulovala, tak ITN podala na Living Marxism žalobu. Soudní spor Living Marxism prohrál zejména proto, že ITN z dotyčného místa zveřejnila více záběrů, kromě těch zpoza plotu a že na místo měli přístup novináři mnoha zemí a agentur.

Po prohraném sporu Living Marxism zkrachoval. Ono v květu 1997, kdy celá kontroverze probíhala médii už asi o tento časopis levicových šílenců nebyl takový zájem mezi čtenáři.

Válka v Srbsku o které mluví popis fotografie byla zahájena až o dva roky později na konci března 1999. Takže to, o čem mluví popis fotografie je nesmysl, protože o skutečnosti dotyčných záběrů se vědělo v té době již dva roky.

Končím, dál to nečtu. Ten text je jednou velkou snůškou lží určenou pro opravdové hlupáky.

32092

15.8.2004 22:51

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Lemi 147.?.?.?

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Jsem zvědavý, zda se k Vašemu příspěvku autor/přakladatel vyjádří. Je snadné napsat snůšku žvástů a hodit ji do světa.

32114

10.8.2004 18:37

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delta.100 delta (tečka) 100 (zavináč) seznam (tečka) cz 194.?.?.?

Kdo je v pozadí toho všeho? [překvapení]

Kdo má v rukou většinu financí na téhle planetě?

Kdo tahá za nitky?

SHALOM, MEDINAT ISRAEL! [naštvaný]

31952

11.8.2004 0:09

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Pisatel si přeje zůstat v anonymitě 12.?.?.?

Pro upresneni:
Saddam vtrhl do Kuvajtu, protoze Kuvajt pokladal za sve historicke teritory a dale narkl Kuvajt, ze mu sikmymi vrty krade ropu. Ten pribeh s temi inkubatory je sice pravdivy, ale nebyl to duvod k napadeni Iraku, jinak by musely vsechny tyto zeme tomu uverit: http://www.desert-storm.com/War/nations.html

31966

11.8.2004 1:01

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albert 216.?.?.?

A pak ze zazraky se nedeji!

2.5+ milionu mrtvych se po vice jak 40 letech kominem vratilo zpet k zivotum, a 6 - 2.5 = 6

Mohammed Atta byl 11-9-01 pred odleted do Bostonu natocen kamerou na letisti v Portland, ME, ale jeho rentovane auto muselo odletet s nim (asi na letajicim koberci), nebot bylo nalezeno na parkovisti v Bostonu.

V altitude a za rychlosti letadel AA a United, 9-11 celuarni telefony nebyly schopne umoznit za letu spojeni se zemi, presto osudneho dne 7 lidi z osudnych letu se zemi celuarnimi telefony komunikovalo.

Ocel se tavila, ale papirovy pas Atty prezil.

8 z 19 teroristu se po 9-11 ohlasilo ze ziji, ale 19 - 8 = 19
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http://www.nypress.com/print.cfm?content_id=10706

WWW.NYPRESS.COM | JULY 27, 2004
ALAN CABAL
NEWS & COLUMNS

MIRACLES AND WONDERS Last week, USA Today reported a joint effort between Qualcomm and American Airlines' to allow passengers to make cellphone calls from aircraft in flight. According to the story, the satellite-based system employs a "Pico cell" to act as a small cellular tower.

"It worked great," gushed Monte Ford, American Airline's chief information officer. "I called the office. I called my wife. I called a friend in Paris. They all heard me great, and I could hear them loud and clear."

Before this new "Pico cell," it was nigh on impossible to make a call from a passenger aircraft in flight. Connection is impossible at altitudes over 8000 feet or speeds in excess of 230 mph.

Yet despite this, passengers Todd Beamer, Mark Bingham, Jeremy Glick and Edward Felt all managed to place calls from Flight 93 on the morning of September 11. Peter Hanson, en route to Disneyland with his wife and daughter, phoned his dad from Flight 175. Madeline Amy Sweeney, a flight attendant, made a very dramatic call from Flight 11 as it sped to the North Tower. Barbara Olson made two calls, collect, to her husband at his government office from Flight 77 as it made its way to the Pentagon.

Each call was initially reported as coming from a cellphone. Later, when skepticism reared its ugly head and the Grassy Knollers arrived, the narrative became fuzzy; it was suggested that $10-a-minute Airfones were involved. Olson was an easy candidate for Airfone (one doesn't call collect from a cell), but as the stories developed, Olson—and Felt—were said to have called from inside locked lavatories. No Airfone there.

In the very near future, numerous technological miracles and wonders will rise up out of the ashes of that terrible day, much the way the space program supposedly gave us Tang and Velcro. Satam Al-Suqami's indestructible passport, for one, is currently under the microscope in the Reverse Engineering Department at Area 51. My old passport was falling apart when I finally replaced it last year, just from spending 10 years in my pocket. His survived the destruction of the World Trade Center. I want one of those.



31968

11.8.2004 2:28

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Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

APRIL GLASPIE TRANSCRIPT


Yes, remember April Glaspie and her amazing stint at Middle East diplomacy?

Saddam-Glaspie meeting

Transcript of Meeting Between Iraqi President, Saddam Hussein and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie. - July 25, 1990 (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait)

July 25, 1990 - Presidential Palace - Baghdad

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threat s against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship - not confrontation - regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait's borders?

Saddam Hussein - As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - What solutions would be acceptab le?

Saddam Hussein - If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab - our strategic goal in our war with Iran - we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam s view, including Kuwait ) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States' opinion on this?

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960's, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. (Saddam smiles)

On August 2, 1990, Saddam's massed troops invade and occupy Kuwait. _____

Baghdad, September 2, 1990, U.S. Embassy

One month later, British journalists obtain the the above tape and transcript of the Saddam - Glaspie meeting of July 29, 1990. Astounded, they confront Ms. Glaspie as she leaves the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

Journalist 1 - Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?(Ambassador Glaspie does not respond)

Journalist 2 - You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait ) but you didn't warn him nKráceno (Editor)

31969

11.8.2004 2:34

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Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?



Journalist 2 - You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait ) but you didn't warn him not to. You didn't tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait.

Journalist 1 - You encouraged this aggression - his invasi on. What were you thinking?

U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - Obviously, I didn't think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait.

Journalist 1 - You thought he was just going to take some of it? But, how could you? Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed , he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab waterway) goal for the Whole of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You know that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as an historic part of their country!
Journalist 1 - American green-lighted the invasion. At a minimum, you admit signaling Saddam that some aggression was okay - that the U.S. would not oppose a grab of the al-Rumeilah oil field, the disputed border strip and the Gulf Islands (including Bubiyan) - the territories claimed by Iraq?

(Ambassador Glaspie says nothing as a limousine door closed behind her and the car drives off.)

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Pan Josef se muze pretrhnout,ale my prece vime ,ze vyslancem v Iraku byla velvyslankyne,to nam nerika nic noveho,kdyby sel do archivu Zvedavce,tak uz si to davno mohl precist.Cose tyka ostatniho,tak to je ztrata casu s nim,on obevuje Ameriku az ted,ackoliv jmeno Amerika uz je po nekom ,kdo tam byl driv nez on ,ale nemame na to data,jak on rika.

31970

11.8.2004 4:33

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

jednim druhem mezinarodnich trenic je isarelske komando smrti ,cestujici po ruznych zemich sveta a provadejici popravy na clenech opozice,vetsinou Arabech,tak ,jak se stalo v Kanade a nebo kdyz zadrzeli atentaniky primo v mexickem parlamentu,takove akce ,rovnez muzou vest k pocatku valky-vis 11 September.
Nakonec,Novy Zealand si to nenechal libit a utnul "drapky" temto rejdum na svem uzemi,coz jine staty nedokazali,aby, se nestali" antisemitickymi",tak nechaji vrazdit sve obcany.Na otaku reportera ministrovi zahranici Alexander Down,zda Israelsky Mossad rovnez tak operuje v Australii se nedockal odpovedi,protoze mnozi politici jsou papeztejsi papeze,tedy zionistejsi ,nez zionisti.
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31979

11.8.2004 6:46

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Sidonius ZdenekM (zavináč) Shaw (tečka) ca 24.?.?.?

Reakce na 31979

Slovutný Mistře,
jste daleko lepší, než Adalbert Kolínský a Eliška Kutnohorská dohromady ! Já však nejsem Ladislav Stroupežnický a nemusím, díky Bohu, číst Vaše sáhodlouhé, postované litanie, které snad jsou k věci, ale rozsáhlost a množství jejich, mě odrazuje od podrobného čtení. Je to něco na způsob povinné četby, kterou nám vtloukali do hlav, učitelé v dobách, které se dají také nazvat "Hovězí léta". Když už toho tolik přečtete, proč si nedáte tu práci a neuděláte z toho výcuc a vlastní názor ?
Zajímalo by mne, kolik čtenářů to pečlivě čte a kolik z nich má podobný názor, jako já.[zmaten]

31983

11.8.2004 8:33

RE: Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Vcelicka 24.?.?.?

Reakce na 31979

>If you are an Israeli citizen travelling on a standard Israeli >passport and wish to come to New Zealand for non-official/non->visa-required business (eg as a tourist) you are not required >to apply for a visa.

pane Nohejl, ja byl toho presvedceni, ze jste australsky obcan..
nebo se snad mylim?!

Pokud toto postujete pouze pro informaci Massadu mate to na spatnych strankach. Urcite tam mate nejakou mesitu tak bych to postoval na jejich stranky. Tady asi z mossadu nikoho nenajdete.. no mozna, ze se zde nekdo najde...ze ano [smích]

Jinak nechapu, proc by vrah s Mossadu nemohl prijet jako turista bez viza...Nebo si myslite, ze pani z Mossadu cestuji s Mossad psanem na cele?

31987

11.8.2004 14:04

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Josef 12.?.?.?

Pane Nohejl !
Z celych Vasich dvou clanku jsem si precetl Prvni vetu: U.S. Ambassador Glaspie - I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait."
A uz slova "Quest for higher oil prices" ve me vzbudily pochyby. Ropa se prodava a kupuje na burzach v Londyne a v Chicagu a jedine tam se vlivem poptavky nabidky da ovlivnit cena za olej. Staremu Bushovi se zastavovala ekonomie a bude ambasadora posilat za Sadamem kvuli zvyseni ceny oleje, aby mel jeste vice problemu.
Jestli nekdo napise, ze kdyz hori barak v Rime jeste k tomu pred nasim letopoctem a ze se jeste pri tom da vyjednat cena pozemku, nebo ze Rooswelt aby dostal USA do valky si necha zlikvidovat celou tichomorskou flotilu v Pearl Harboru, ze pak neni cim valcit, tak pak uz ctu clanek jako perlicku a obdivuji co se da lidem vsechno nakecat.

31989

11.8.2004 17:01

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albert 216.?.?.?

Reakce na 31989

Josef, skoda ze jste nefungoval jako poradce pro US ambasadorku do Iraqu, Ms. Glaspie, a neporadil ji aby se v diskuzi se Saddamem toho osudneho dne projevovala trochu rozumeji.

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

31992

11.8.2004 21:38

RE: Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Vcelicka 24.?.?.?

Reakce na 31992

>Josef, skoda ze jste nefungoval jako poradce pro US
>ambasadorku do Iraqu, Ms. Glaspie, a neporadil ji aby se v
>diskuzi se Saddamem toho osudneho dne projevovala trochu
>rozumeji.

>
>http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html
>http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

Albert, ne ja si myslim, ze ty muzes fungovat jako poradce Modremu Turbanu. Urcite z toho neco vydolujes. Co takle napsat neco k burze, nebo cene barelu oleje. Mozna, ze se tvejma znalostma bys na burze vydelal majlant.
>

31998

12.8.2004 22:05

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albert 216.?.?.?

Reakce na 31998


>>
>>http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html
>>http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
>
>Albert, ne ja si myslim, ze ty muzes fungovat jako poradce
>Modremu Turbanu. Urcite z toho neco vydolujes. Co takle
>napsat neco k burze, nebo cene barelu oleje. Mozna, ze se
>tvejma znalostma bys na burze vydelal majlant.


Vcelicko, to je fantazie, ze jsi mne odhalil jako autora tech prilozenych linek - odkazu. Je mou cti, ze tak bystry clovek jako ty mi vubec pise. Dekuju. [překvapení]

32024

11.8.2004 22:34

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Josef 12.?.?.?

Reakce na 31992

Jestli to minite jako poctu, tak dekuji!

32000

11.8.2004 23:13

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

tyg tygr6 (zavináč) tiscali (tečka) cz 81.?.?.?

Mňo. Čemu věřit? Že? Nevidím ale jediný důvod proč věřit více Bushovi, Clintonovi, Bushovi... Můžeme se donekonečna dohadovat o pravdivosti a celistvosti doměnek, úvah a dedukcí. Ale budu se intuitivně přiklánět k tomu, kdo se snaží za své peníze (resp. čas) hlídat. Tím nemyslím Bushe - ten za cizí peníze nepravosti vytváří. Myslím tím některá média, mezi které zahrnuji i tento server. Informace získané tady budu považovat za užitečnejší, než ty z PR nebo vládních agentur. Pan Stwora (a zúčastnění) pravděpodobně nemohou očekávat od zveřejnění takové zisky, jako často strana druhá. Pro mne je to směrodatné (pokud nepovažuji autora za paranoika, jako že ho spíš mám za analytika). Tolik jen k občasnému žabomyšímu dokazování "echtovnosti" toho či onoho výroku - není to podstata věci. Mějte se. [mrknutí jedním okem]

32002

12.8.2004 6:02

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

Je uplne jedno cemu ,kdo ,podle sveho vzdelani bude verit,je uplne jedno ,jake dukazy se tu podaji a nebo ,kdokomu bude delat politickeho poradce ,protoze ,az se lidstvo prepocita a udela ten omyl ,ze zkoncime pro neci nenasytnost a hrabivost v jedne velke nuklearni valce ,tak pokud prezijem ,tak uz budem si vsichni rovni a vsichni chytri ,jestli nam to k necemu uz bude.To by si meli uvedomovat vsichni provokateri,ze jsou s nami ,co poukazujeme na rostarny mocnych na jedne lodi.Zivot uz mi mnohokrate dokazal,ze ti ,co do vseho rejpali a znesvecovali,tak potom kdyz ruka osudu padla na ne ,tak nejvic ze vsech "kejhali" jak ty "Husy".
Svet je plny vselijakych uzitecnych idiotu ,kteri si svou blbosti rezou vetev pod svym vlastnim zadkem,kdyz spadnou a namlati si,tak se dozaduji ,aby jim ti okolni nezapomeli take pomoc ,ackoliv oni v zivote druhemu nepodali ani sklenicku ciste vody.
Panove ,tohle neni hra ,v dnesni dobe ,kdy velice snadno muze zivot na teto planete byt ukoncen nuklearni valkou a nebo bakteriologickou zbrani,provokace Ameriky ,nejsou svetovym zertem ,ale muze se to stat osudne cele lidske civilisaci,kdo ma jen trochu"mozkove kase " v hlave tak to bere zotpovedne,pokud pocit zotpovednosti ma,provokovat k nabozenske valce mezi krestany a muslimi ve prospech zidu neni legrace,ale vazne nebezpeci.

32009

12.8.2004 7:59

RE: Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2.

Lemi 147.?.?.?

Reakce na 32009

Hmm, nechápu, kdo by v dnešní době ukončil život na planetě nukleární válkou. Tato situace byla snad možná v době nejtvrdší studené války v 60. a 70. letech - ale vyhrožovat v dnešní době po pádu USSR globálním jaderným konfliktem je naprosto zcestné (tak trochu si říkám, že vlatně tady provádíte ukázkovou politiku zastrašováním). Byl bych tedy rád, kdyby jste zveřejnil, které jaderné velmoci mají být ty, jenž rozpoutají apokalipsu (v současné době mě napadá pouze Indie-Pakistan, ale ani tady nelze mluvit o globálním konfliktu).
Budoucnost patří spíše lokálním konfliktům o nízké intenzitě a klasickým teroristickým útokům. I pokud by eventuelně nějaká teroristická skupina zvládla použití jaderné zbraně, pochybuji, že by toto zpusobilo globální konflikt - ono vlasně jaderné zbraně byly použity pouze v Japonsku 1945, kde naopak paradoxně velký konflikt (2WW) ukončily.
Opravdu tedy nechápu, kde berete ty výkřiky o nacházejícím zániku světa.

32015

12.8.2004 23:44

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albert 216.?.?.?

Bush, a vedouci sily US aparatusu (establishment) vedeli o 9-11 teroru predem ...[překvapení]
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/col/story/221160p-190107c.html

32028

13.8.2004 4:52

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

President Bush dispatched nuclear experts to New York to search for the weapon and sent Dick Cheney and other officials out of town to ensure the continuity of government in case a weapon exploded in Washington instead. But to avoid panic, the White House told no one in New York City, not even Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Dragonfire's report was wrong, but similar reports - that Al Qaeda has its hands on a nuclear weapon from the former Soviet Union - have regularly surfaced in the intelligence community, even though such a report has never been confirmed. We do know several troubling things: Al Qaeda negotiated for a $1.5 million purchase of uranium (apparently of South African origin) from a retired Sudanese cabinet minister; its envoys traveled repeatedly to Central Asia to buy weapons-grade nuclear materials; and Osama bin Laden's top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, boasted, "We sent our people to Moscow, to Tashkent, to other Central Asian states, and they negotiated, and we purchased some suitcase [nuclear] bombs."

Professor Allison offers a standing bet at 51-to-49 odds that, barring radical new antiproliferation steps, a terrorist nuclear strike will occur somewhere in the world in the next 10 years. So I took his bet. If there is no such nuclear attack by August 2014, he owes me $5.10. If there is an attack, I owe him $4.90.

32033

13.8.2004 10:43

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

Propaganda je zbran ,jak navest masy lidi na cestu k valce.V prvni svetov evalce to bylo,ze Hunove usekli belgickym detem ruce,v druhe svetove ,ze jsou plynove komory a krematoria,jako nastroj vrazd,co natom ,ze sam reditel v Auswitz prohlasil,ze vse bylo postaveno Rusy az po valce ,propaganda jede dal,v Poustni Bouri ,udajne se irackti vojaci vyznamenali rozbijenim inkubatoru s nemluvnaty v Kuwaitu,co naplat,ze je nasly neporusene,propaganda splnila sve,nakonec zbrane hromadneho niceni ,ktere nebyly,take splnili sve.


Feb 15, 1991, Frontpage:

WAR NEWS!

IRAQIS HAVE
GAS CHAMBERS
FOR ALL JEWS

Gas chambers again. The Jewish weekly "The Jewish Press" (New York) reveals on Feb. 15, 1991 that Saddam Hussein had gas chambers for all Jews. "Iraqis have gas chambers for all Jews".

This latest gas chamber revelation is not yet protected by the German law. It will be, if it becomes relevant to support the common knowledge of the existence of the Hitler gas chambers.
Tenhle artikl pustil do sveta clovek ,ktery dostal nobelovu cenu miru ated nakonec rytirsky titul,nazor si udelejte samy.

32047

19.8.2004 18:22

RE: Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Petr Provazník Jumping (zavináč) seznam (tečka) cz 212.?.?.?

Reakce na 32047

No..to s těmi koncentračními tábory nemyslíte vážně..že?.. Možná by vám pomohlo osvětlit temno kdyby jste si poslechl některého z doposud žijících lidí, kteří byli a přežili v koncentračních táborech...! Podle mého lidé jako rasa jsou těmi nejkrutějišími tvory na této planetě a cokoliv co vás jenom napadne,..cokoliv,.. tak to už tu jednou bylo, jakákoliv nechutnost nebo krutost či bezpráví. Pravdou je že nás vlády manipulují, bylo to tak před kristem, i po něm a bude to tak i na dále..! Nicméně ještě nezmizela bolest lidí z 2svv (a to je velmi dobře! Pouze paměť nás zachrání!) Byl bych velmi, ale opravdu velmi citlivý v například, tématu koncentrační tábory!
Nebo jste snad našel na půdě ve skříni dědečkovu pracovní uniformu od elektrikářů?? (dva Blesky ss) [smích] Nebo možná zastupujete hnutí skinheads v čechách? [smích] Nashledanou.

32267

14.8.2004 3:50

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

Nemameli nepritele na valku,tak si jej udelame,ale ,nejdriv si jej vyzbrojime,at valka nezkonci za tri dny.Jen mala ukazka ,jak lze z pritele ,udelat nepritele,ale nakonec ,mamon je rozhodujici ,nez nejake city a nebo dokonce moralka,tu u politiku ani nemuzem pozadovat.
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When the Iran/Iraq war ended in 1988, the United States continued its support for Iraq, showering her with military hardware, advanced technology, and agricultural credits. The United States apparently looked to Saddam to maintain stability in the Gulf. But American policy swiftly changed when Iraq invaded Kuwait in August 1990. Neoconservatives were hawkish in generating support for a U.S. war against Iraq. The Committee for Peace and Security in the Gulf, headed by Richard Perle, was set up to promote the war. [10] And neoconservative war hawks such as Perle, Frank Gaffney, Jr., A.M. Rosenthal, William Safire, and The Wall Street Journal held that America's war objective should be not simply to drive Iraq out of Kuwait but also to destroy Iraq's military potential, especially her capacity to develop nuclear weapons. The first Bush administration embraced that position. [11]

But beyond that, the neocons hoped that the war would lead to the removal of Saddam Hussein and the American occupation of Iraq. However, despite the urgings of then-Defense Secretary Richard Cheney and Undersecretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, the full conquest of Iraq was never accomplished because of the opposition of General Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and General Norman Schwarzkopf, the field commander. [12] Moreover, the United States had a UN mandate only to liberate Kuwait, not to remove Saddam. To attempt the latter would have caused the U.S.-led coalition to fall apart. America's coalition partners in the region, especially Turkey and Saudi Arabia, feared that the elimination of Saddam's government would cause Iraq to fragment into warring ethnic and religious groups. That could have involved a Kurdish rebellion in Iraq that would have spread to Turkey's own restive Kurdish population. Furthermore, Iraq's Shiites might have fallen under the influence of Iran, increasing the threat of Islamic radicalism in the region.

Zkraceno.

32075

14.8.2004 23:36

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Dr Voštěp 82.?.?.?

Nějak jsem nepochopil tvrzení o tom, že G. Bush zbaběle dodával zbraně Iráku v době války s Iránem. Ta, pokud se nepletu, skončila v roce 88 a G.B. byl presidentem až od 89.

32081

15.8.2004 10:29

Domnělý teror - cesta k totalitě a válkám (2. díl)

Robert Nohejl emunest (zavináč) cyberinternet (tečka) com (tečka) au 202.?.?.?

Uz od doby prvni svetove valky ,mnozi vedeli,ze je to cesta ke zbohatnuti ,tech ,kteri nikdy v zakopu nebudou.

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable,
surely the most vicious. It is the only one
international in scope. It is the only one in which
the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in
lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something
that is not what it seems to the majority of the
people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is
about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very
few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few
people make huge fortunes.

In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the
profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new
millionaires and billionaires were made in the United
States during the World War. That many admitted their
huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many
other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no
one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle?
How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew
what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out?
How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights,
ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets?
How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy?
How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if
they are victorious. They just take it. This newly
acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few –
the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the
war. The general public shoulders the bill.

And what is this bill?

This bill renders a horrible accounting. Newly placed
gravestones. Mangled bodies. Shattered minds. Broken
hearts and homes. Economic instability. Depression and
all its attendant miseries. Back-breaking taxation for
generations and generations.

For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a
suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired
to civil life did I fully realize it. Now that I see
the international war clouds gathering, as they are
today, I must face it and speak out.

Again they are choosing sides. France and Russia met
and agreed to stand side by side. Italy and Austria
hurried to make a similar agreement. Poland and
Germany cast sheep's eyes at each other, forgetting
for the nonce [one unique occasion], their dispute
over the Polish Corridor.

The assassination of King Alexander of Jugoslavia
[Yugoslavia] complicated matters. Jugoslavia and
Hungary, long bitter enemies, were almost at each
other's throats. Italy was ready to jump in. But
France was waiting. So was Czechoslovakia. All of them
are looking ahead to war. Not the people – not those
who fight and pay and die – only those who foment wars
and remain safely at home to profit.

There are 40,000,000 men under arms in the world
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pane Nohejl, bylo by vhodne napsat, ze kterych stranek jste to kopiroval, nemyslite? Preci nechcete abych stale hledal kde nachazite tyto informace. Rad bych si utvoril vlastni nazor, komu tyto informace prospivaji.

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Kdyz byla druha svetova valka,tak jsme videli a jeste vidime ,jak vypadala na mori,zejmena v Severnim mori,kde obchodni lodstvo vlastne bylo ve valce take.Vzpominate si a nebo vidite na dokumentarnich zaberech ,ze byste videli jedinou tankovou lod ,jez patrila reckemu rejdari Onnasisovi,ze by byla napaden az jedne a nebo druhe strany valecnych stran?
Onnassis ,co by tak zvany "recky rejdar" prece tu naftu-olej prodaval vsem ,jak jedne ,tak druhe bojujicvi strane,nebo snad ne?
Tudiz zde mate dukaz ,zatimco se dva perou ,tak treti na tom vydelava.Toto jsem vyse zminenym clankem chtel naznacit,ze mnozi zbohatlici a vazeni obcane ovsem,vyrostli obchodem na mrtvolach,nic min a nic vic.Plno materialu najdete v tomto smeru na Americkych patriotech a jeste jedna zajimavost ke zminenemu clanku,ktery napsal byvaly general,takze ,ten musel vedet ,jak to prece vse funguje.
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"Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force of the people." James Madison, August 1793.

"Beware of the leader who bangs of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double edged sword. It emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. When the drums of war have reached a fervor pitch, and the blood boils with hate and the mind is closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, and do it gladly so. How do I know? I know, for this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." The previous quote has been attributed to Julius Caesar. Its validity, however, does not rest on the patina of Caesar; the truth of the statement is self evident.
Historie je velmi nebezpecna zbran ,pokud se vyklada pravdive

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>zajimavost ke zminenemu clanku,ktery napsal byvaly >general,takze ,ten musel vedet ,jak to prece vse funguje.


pane Nohejl, zde se opet mylite. Tvrdite, ze James Madison byl general. James Madison meril 5'5" a v te dobe meli radi vetsi generaly. Byl to ovsem velice moudry clovek, a ctvrty president spojenych statu.

James Madison 4th President of the United States

Vice President: George Clinton (1809-1812), Elbridge Gerry (1813-1814)posledni rok.
Neni to slovickovani, na me vyhledane odpovedi neodpovidate pouze dale kopirujete bez cteni a premysleni.

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. President von Hindenburg signed the decree "for the Protection of the people and the State." The grandfather of President George W. Bush (Skull & Bones, AKA Bonesmen in the year 1968) was Prescott Bush (Skull & Bones of 1917), and his great grand father was George Herbert Walker. Prescott Bush and George Herbert (Bert) Walker were directors of the London-affiliated New York banking house of Brown Brothers-Harriman and its various fronts, which funded and directed the military-industrial complex behind Hitler and the Nazi revolution. In 1919, George Herbert Walker had organized W.A. Harriman & Co which merged with the British Brown Brothers in 1931. In 1924, Averell Harriman (Skull & Bones, 1913) and Fritz Thyssen, the German industrialist who began funding Hitler in 1923, set up the Union Banking Corp. in New York to handle funds supplied to it through Thyssen´s Dutch bank for American investment. Prescott Bush, who had been an officer of the W.A. Harriman bank since 1926, was a director of the Union Banking Corp from 1934 through 1943. According to government documents, "all of the shares of the Union Banking Corp., were held for the benefit of members of the Thyssen family." In 1942 the U.S. government investigative report that surfaced during 1945 Senate hearings found that the Union Bank, with Prescott Bush on the board, was an ?interlocking concern? with the German Steel Trust that had produced: 50.8% of Nazi Germany?s pig iron 41.4% of Nazi Germany?s universal plate 36% of Nazi Germany?s heavy plate 38.5% of Nazi Germany?s galvanized sheet 45.5% of Nazi Germany?s pipes and tubes 22.1% of Nazi Germany?s wire 35% of Nazi Germany?s explosives

Zde, si muzete precist,jak se vydelava na mrtvolach,mnozi milionari ,jsou v podstate valecny zlocinci,kolik dazdodenne vydelavaji dodnes na valce v Iraku,nejakych 500 000 deti,jez umreli podvizivou je nezajima, je ,zajima ,jen ,kolik na tom vydelali.Ti,cos tale na Hitlera nadavaji jeste dnes ,jsou Ti samy ,co na nem delali ty nejlepsi obchody a delaji je dodnes ,nepotrasal si zid Rumsfeld ruce se Saddamem Hussejnem?

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Pane Vcelicka,kde Vy berete ty informace ,o zadnem Medison nebylo psano.War is a Racket napsal general major Butler
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WAR IS A RACKET

Smedley Darlington Butler

Major General - United States Marine Corps [Retired]

Born West Chester, Pa., July 30, 1881

Educated Haverford School

Married Ethel C. Peters, of Philadelphia, June 30,
1905

Awarded two congressional medals of honor, for capture
of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914,

and for capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917

Distinguished service medal, 1919

Retired Oct. 1, 1931

On leave of absence to act as director of Department
of Safety, Philadelphia, 1932

Lecturer - 1930's

Republican Candidate for Senate, 1932

Died at Naval Hospital, Philadelphia, June 21, 1940

For more information about Major General Smedley
Butler, contact the United States Marine Corps.

Chapter One

WAR IS A RACKET

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Ja chodim "nakupovat " primo ke kovari a ne ke kovarickovi ,pane Provaznik,naucte se to take,zejmena s tou krutosti a budete prekvapen.
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100,000 Radiations - A Review
by Barry Chamish
http://www.barrychamish.com

On August 14, at 9 PM, Israeli television station, Channel Ten, broke all convention and exposed the ugliest secret of Israel's Labor Zionist founders; the deliberate mass radiation poisoning of nearly all Sephardi youths.

The expose began with the presentation of a documentary film called, 100,000 Radiations, and concluded with a panel discussion moderated by TV host Dan Margalit, surprising because he is infamous for toeing the establishment line.

Film Details:

100,000 Radiations, released by Dimona Productions Ltd. in 2003.

Producer - Dudi Bergman
Directors - Asher Khamias, David Balrosen

Panel Discussion Participants

A Moroccan singer was joined by David Edri, head of the Compensation Committee for Ringworm X-Ray Victims, and Boaz Lev, a spokesman for the Ministry Of Health.

Subject:

In 1951, the director general of the Israeli Health Ministry, Dr. Chaim Sheba flew to America and returned with 7 x-ray machines, supplied to him by the American army.

They were to be used in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths to be used as guinea pigs. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35,000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. For doing so, the American government paid the Israeli government 300 million liras a year. The entire Health budget was 60 million liras. The money paid by the Americans is equivalent to billions of dollars today. To fool the parents of the victims, the children were taken away on "school trips" and their parents were later told the x-rays were a treatment for the scourge of scalpal ringworm. 6,000 of the children died shortly after their doses were given, the many of the rest developed cancers that killed them over time and are still killing them now. While living, the victims suffered from disorders such as:-
epilepsy,
amnesia,
Alzheimer's disease,
chronic headaches and
psychosis.
Yes, that is the subject of the documentary in cold terms. It is another matter to see the victims on the screen. ie.

To watch the Moroccan lady describe what getting 35,000 times the dose of allowable x-rays in her head feels like "I screamed make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. But it never went away."

To watch the bearded man walk hunched down the street. "I'm in my fifties and everyone thinks I'm in my seventies. I have to stoop when I walk so I won't fall over. They took my youth away with those x-rays."

To watch the old lady who administered the doses to thousands of children. "They brought them in lines. First their heads were shaved and smeared in burning gel. Then a ball was put between their legs and the children were ordered not to drop it, so they wouldn't move. The children weren't protected over the rest of their bodies. There were no lead vests for them.Kráceno (Editor)

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them. I was told I was doing good by helping to remove ringworm. If I knew what dangers the children were facing, I would never have cooperated. Never!"

Because the whole body was exposed to the rays, the genetic makeup of the children was often altered, affecting the next generation. We watch the woman with the distorted face explain, "All three of my children have the same cancers my family suffered. Are you going to tell me that's a coincidence?"

Everyone notices that Sephardi women in their fifties today, often have sparse patchy hair, which they try to cover with henna. Most of us assumed it was just a characteristic of Sephardi women. We watch the woman on the screen wearing a baseball-style hat. She places a picture of a lovely young teenager with flowing black hair opposite the lens. "That was me before my treatment. Now look at me." She removes her hat. Even the red henna can't cover the horrifying scarred bald spots.

The majority of the victims were Moroccan because they were the most numerous of the Sephardi immigrants. The generation that was poisoned became the country's perpetual poor and criminal class. It didn't make sense. The Moroccans who fled to France became prosperous and highly educated. The common explanation was that France got the rich, thus smart ones. The real explanation is that every French Moroccan child didn't have his brain cells fried with gamma rays.

The film made it perfectly plain that this operation was no accident. The dangers of x-rays had been known for over forty years. We read the official guidelines for x-ray treatment in 1952. The maximum dose to be given a child in Israel was .5 rad. There was no mistake made. The children were deliberately poisoned.

David Deri, makes the point that only Sephardi children received the x-rays. "I was in class and the men came to take us on a tour. They asked our names. The Ashkenazi children were told to return to their seats. The dark children were put on the bus."

The film presents a historian who first gives a potted history of the eugenics movement. In a later sound bite, he declares that the ringworm operation was a eugenics program aimed at weeding out the perceived weak strains of society. The film now quotes two noted anti-Sephardi racist Jewish leaders, Nahum Goldmann and Levi Eshkol.

Goldmann spent the Holocaust years first in Switzerland, where he made sure few Jewish refugees were given shelter, then flew to New York to become head of the World Jewish Congress headed by Samuel Bronfman. According to Canadian writer Mordecai Richler, Bronfman had cut a deal with Prime Minister Mackenzie King to prevent the immigration of European Jews to Canada.

But Levi Eshkol's role in the Holocaust was far more sinister than merely not saving lives. He was busy taking them instead. From a biography of Levi Eshkol from the Israeli government web site:

"In 1937 Levi Eshkol played a central role in the establishment of the Mekorot Water Company and in this role was instrumental in convincing the GermaKráceno (Editor)

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"In 1937 Levi Eshkol played a central role in the establishment of the Mekorot Water Company and in this role was instrumental in convincing the German government to allow Jews emigrating to Palestine to take with them some of their assets - mostly in the form of German-made equipment."

While world Jewry was boycotting the Nazi regime in the '30s, the Jewish Agency in Jerusalem was propping up Hitler. A deal, called The Transfer Agreement, was cut whereby the Nazis would chase Germany's Jews to Palestine, and the Labor Zionists would force the immigrants to use their assets to buy only German goods. Once the Jewish Agency got the German Jews it wanted, those they secretly indoctrinated in the anti-Judaism of Shabtai Tzvi and Jacob Frank, they let the Nazis take care of the rest of European Jewry. The Holocaust was a eugenics program and Levi Eshkol played a major role in it.
The Moroccan lady is back on the screen. "It was a Holocaust, a Sephardi Holocaust. And what I want to know is why no one stood up to stop it."
David Deri, on film and then as a panel member, relates the frustration he encountered when trying to find his childhood medical records. "All I wanted to know was what they did to me. I wanted to know who authorized it. I wanted to trace the chain of command. But the Health Ministry told me my records were missing."
Boaz Lev, the Health Ministry's spokesman chimes in, "Almost all the records were burned in a fire."
So let us help Mr. Deri trace the chain of command. But now I must intrude myself in the review. About six years ago, I investigated the kidnapping of some 4500, mostly Yemenite immigrant infants and children, during the early years of the state. I met the leader of the Yemenite children's movement, Rabbi Uzi Meshulum, imprisoned for trying to get the truth out. He was later returned home in a vegetative state from which he has not emerged. He told me that the kidnapped children were sent to America to die cruelly in nuclear experiments. The American government had banned human testing and needed guinea pigs. The Israeli government agreed to supply the humans in exchange for money and nuclear secrets. The initiator of Israel's nuclear program was Defence Ministry director-general Shimon Peres.
Rabbi David Sevilia of Jerusalem corroborated the crime and later, I even saw photos of the radiation scars on the few surviving children, and the cages the infants were shipped to America in.
Just over five years ago I published my belief on the internet, that Israel's Labor Zionist founders had conducted atomic experiments on Yemenite and other Sephardi children, killing thousands of them. Almost three years ago, I published the same assertion in my last book, Save Israel!. I suffered much scorn for doing so. However, I was right.
We return to the documentary. We are told that a US law in the late '40s put a stop to the human radiation experiments conducted on prisoners, the mentally feeble and the like. The American atomic program needed a new source of human lab rats and the Israeli government supplied it.
Here wKráceno (Editor)

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We return to the documentary. We are told that a US law in the late '40s put a stop to the human radiation experiments conducted on prisoners, the mentally feeble and the like. The American atomic program needed a new source of human lab rats and the Israeli government supplied it.
Here was the government cabinet at the time of the ringworm atrocities:

Prime Minister - David Ben Gurion
Finance Minister - Eliezer Kaplan
Settlement Minister - Levi Eshkol
Foreign Minister - Moshe Sharrett
Health Minister - Yosef Burg
Labor Minister - Golda Meir
Police Minister - Amos Ben Gurion

The highest ranking non-cabinet post belonged to the Director General Of The Defence Ministry, Shimon Peres.

That a program involving the equivalent of billions of dollars of American government funds should be unknown to the Prime Minister of cash-strapped Israel is ridiculous. Ben Gurion was in on the horrors and undoubtedly chose his son to be Police Minister in case anyone interfered with them.
Now let's have a quick glance at the other plotters, starting with the Finance Minister Eliezer Kaplan. He handled the profits of the operation and was rewarded for eternity with a hospital named after him near Rehovot. But he's not alone in this honor. The racist bigot Chaim Sheba, who ran Ringworm Incorporated, had a whole medical complex named after him. Needless to say, if there is an ounce of decency in the local medical profession, those hospital names will have to change.
Then there is Yosef Burg, who the leaders of the Yemenite Children's movement insist was the most responsible for the kidnappings of their infants. As Health Minister, he certainly played a pivotal role in the Ringworm murders. That would go a great way to explaining the peculiar behavior of his son, the peacemaker, Avraham Burg.
Let us not forget Moshe Sharrett, who had Rabbi Yoel Brand arrested in Aleppo in 1944 for proposing a practical way to save 800,000 Jews trapped in Hungary. Sharrett's most cited quote is, "If Shimon Peres ever enters this government, I will tear my clothes and start to mourn." Several Yemenite Children activists told me Sharrett was referring to the kidnapping of the Yemenite children when he made this statement.
And other amateur historians have told me that Levi Eshkol openly and proudly announced his belief in the tenets of Shabtai Tzvi, but try as I have, I haven't tracked down a citation. However, we do know of Eshkol, that during the period of the radiations, he served first as Settlement Minister, then took over from Kaplan as Finance Minister. From his bio:

"In 1951 Eshkol was appointed Minister of Agriculture and Development, and from 1952 to 1963 - a decade characterized by unprecedented economic growth despite the burden of financing immigrant absorption and the 1956 Sinai Campaign - he served as Minister of Finance. Between 1949 and 1963, Eshkol also served as head of the settlement division of the Jewish Agency. In the first four years of statehood, he was also treasurer of the Jewish Agency, largely responsible for obtaining the funds fKráceno (Editor)

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Between 1949 and 1963, Eshkol also served as head of the settlement division of the Jewish Agency. In the first four years of statehood, he was also treasurer of the Jewish Agency, largely responsible for obtaining the funds for the country's development, absorption of the massive waves of immigrants and equipment for the army."

In short, Eshkol was the person most responsible for Israel's immigrants, the ones he sent to radiation torture chambers.
Finally, there is Golda Meir. We don't know her role, but she was in on the secret and rewarded for it. Note that every prime minister thereafter until 1977, when the honorable Menachem Begin was elected, came from this cabal. And note also, that no one from what is called the Right today, was privy to the slaughter of the Sephardi children. Apply that lesson to a contemporary fact: It is the descendants of these butchers who brought us the Oslo "peace" and are determined to wipe out the settlers of Judea, Samaria and Gaza as surely as they had dealt with the inferior dark Jews who came into their clutches fifty years before.
Now try and imagine it is 1952 and you are in a cabinet meeting. You will be debating whether to send the Yemenite babies to America for their final zapping, or whether to have them zapped here. That is what the Luciferian, satanic Sabbataian founders of our nation were prattling on about when they got together to discuss the affairs of state.
After the film ended, TV host Dan Margalit tried to put a better face on what he'd witnessed. Any face had to be better than what he had seen. He explained meekly, "But the state was poor. It was a matter of day to day survival." Then he stopped. He knew there was no excusing the atrocities the Sephardi children endured.
But it was the Moroccan singer who summed up the experience best. "It's going to hurt, but the truth has to be told. If not, the wounds will never heal."
There is one person alive who knows the truth and participated in the atrocities. He is Leader Of The Opposition Shimon Peres, the peacemaker. The only way to get to the truth and start the healing is to investigate him for his role in the kidnapping of 4500 Yemenite infants and the mass poisoning of over 100,000 Sephardi children and youths.
But here is why that won't happen. It is a miracle that 100,000 Radiations was broadcast at all. Clearly though, someone fought for it but had to agree to a compromise. The show was aired at the same time as the highest-rated show of the year, the final of Israel's, A Star Is Born. The next day, there was not a word about 100,000 Radiations in any paper, but the newly-born star's photo took up half the front pages.
That's how the truth is buried in Israel, and somehow, these tricks work. The same methods were used to cover up the Rabin assassination.
However, a few hundred thousand people saw the film on their screens and they will never forget the truth. If the Rabin assassination doesn't bury Labor Zionism for good, then 100,000 Radiations eventually will.

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Josef - vis, jak dlouho hori takovy dum nez shori? Dlouho [smích] Casu je na to vice nez dost. A zbytek je celkem bez pochyb prokazan [mrknutí jedním okem] (hlavne ten Spartacus)

Zlikvidovat si celou tichomorskou flotilu? Ale kdeze, nastrcili tam jen stare lodi, dulezite letadlove byly hezky v suchu... [mrknutí jedním okem] A uspech Japonskeho uderu byl podstatny, aby vyburcoval narod, a dovolil vylecny stav - pak se zacaly prodkukovat lode jak na bezicim pasu, takze obetovani velke casti flotily v Pearl Harboru byla vlastne uplna bleska [mrknutí jedním okem]

Mimochodem, niceni je vlastne dobre - protoze dava lidem praci, aby pak vyrobili nahradu za znicene [vyplazený jazyk] Tak se na to da take divat - zkusete ten pohled [smích]

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